for this regular cup of "weekend mojo." good to see you both. >> good to be back. >> good to be here. >> you were saying this proposal is a nonstarter. if it's a snnonstarter, why not put something that's a starter? >> minka said i always give lousy first offers when i'm buying a condominium, but the problem is we're so close to the fiscal cliff that you wonder why the president and the white house did what they did. not because they didn't have a right to start there and play hardball, but because john boehner is balancing. republicans say they will never, ever, ever vote for a tax increase, and those who say okay, well, let's make a deal. and i just think the president, by starting with a proposal that even "the wall street journal" said was provocative, maybe not the best first step to help john boehner pull over a majority of his caucus. >> totally disagree, because i think it gives boehner room now to look like he brought the president in now. i think it's a great first offer, because it's going to have to change now. just like bidding on a house, i give ridiculously low offers.